LSA

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Producten die LSA bevatten (zoals Hawaiian Baby Woodrose of Morning Glory zaden) zijn terug te vinden in de LSA zaden categorie van de smartshop.

Wat is LSA?

LSA (Lysergic Acid Amide) is een psychedelische stof die van nature voorkomt in veel planten. Het heeft ongeveer 1/10 tot 1/30 van de sterkte van LSD. Ook zijn er gelijkenissen in effect, maar het is in het algemeen veel minder stimulerend en kan in hogere doses juist rustgevend zijn.
De meest voorkomende planten waarin het wordt aangetroffen zijn morning glory (Ipomoea violacea), waarvan de zaden het makkelijkst eetbaar zijn, en Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Zoals veel andere psychoactieven hebben deze planten een spirituele en religieuze gebruikshistorie bij Zuid-Amerikaanse indianenstammen. En zo zijn deze zaden ook eerst als een wat obsuur entheogeen tot de Westerse wereld doorgedrongen.

Geschiedenis van LSA

De zaden van verschillende soorten tropische lianen werden door de indianen in Mexico lange tijd voor rituelen gebruikt. Een van de eerste Spanjaarden die deze rituelen observeerde, schreef in zijn boek: "En wanneer de priesters met hun goden wilden communiceren en hun boodschappen wilden ontvangen, dan aten ze van een plant, die ze in een delirium bracht. Gedurende die hele tijd hadden ze duizenden visioenen en goddelijke hallucinaties".
Vanwege de volledig negatieve houding die de Spanjaarden tegenover deze rituelen hadden, werden ze door de eeuwen heen in het geheim voortgezet; uiteindelijk trokken veel wetenschappers zelfs de verhalen van de eerste missionarissen in twijfel. De mysterieuze lianen werden door ethnobotanicus dr. Richard Schultes in 1941 gevonden; naar het schijnt gebruiken de Zapotec indianen, die in de zuidelijke Mexicaanse staten wonen, ze nog steeds voor hetzelfde doel.
In 1959 stuurde Richard Schultes wat proeven van gecultiveerde Mexicaanse morning glory, Turbina corymbosa, naar Albert Hoffman, de ontdekker van LSD. In 1960 rapporteerde Don Thomes dat de zaden van een andere morning glory, IIpomoea violacea, gebruikt werden als sacramenten bij de Zapotec gemeenschap, soms in combinatie met Turbina corymbosa zaden en soms niet. Deze morning glory soort is degene met verwante soorten in Amerika die echter niet allemaal 'actief' zijn. Uiteindelijk bleek LSA ook te zitten in de eveneens eetbare Hawaiian baby woodrose zaden (Argyreia nervosa).

Chemistry

In 1960 analyseerde Hoffman de Turbina corymbosa zaden en concludeerde dat ze ergot-achtige alkaloïden bevatten. Dit was voor veel mensen moeilijk te geloven omdat voorheen deze chemicalien enkel in de roggepaddestoel Claviceps purpurea (ergot) gevonden waren. Maar Hoffman had gelijk; de zaden bevatten d-lysergisch aminozuur. Dit verschilt van LSD enkel doordat het NH2 heeft waar LSD N(C2H5)2 heeft, echter LSD is 50 tot 100 keer sterker. De Turbina corymbosa zaden hebben ook nog andere psychoactieve alkaloïden in zich: d-lysergisch aminozuur, chanoclavine, elymoclavine en lysergol.

Effecten - 'trippen met LSA'

LSA wordt oraal ingenomen en veroorzaakt na ongeveer 20 minuten een droom-achtige staat waarin het bewustzijn van de persoon volledig behouden blijft. In iets hogere doses kunnen de symptomen sterker zijn en na ongeveer een uur valt de gebruiker in slaap. Echter, de hallucinaties die LSD kan veroorzaken worden bij LSA nauwelijks ervaren behalve wanneer dit niet in een heel hoge dosis wordt ingenomen.

Begin: ongeveer 2 uur totaan de piek
Duur : 10 - 14 uur
Normaal na de effecten: totaan 24 uur

Gebruik

1 Morning glory zaadje bevat ongeveer 0.01mg LSA.
1 Hawaiian baby woodrose zaadje bevat ongeveer 0.25mg LSA.

Een gemiddelde dosis variëert van 0,5 tot 1,5 mg, een sterke dosis is 1,5 tot 4 mg. Gebruik niet meer dan 4 mg.

Voor het klaarmaken en consumeren van de zaadjes, zie onze Morning Glory en Hawaiian Baby Woodrose pagina's.

Waarschuwingen

Ergometrine heeft sterke baarmoeder samentrekkende capaciteiten, daarom is het voor zwangere vrouwen heel slecht om deze zaden te eten. Ook zouden ze zaden slecht zijn voor mensen met leverproblemen (geelzucht en hepatitis bijvoorbeeld).
Combineer LSA niet met MAO-remmers. Beide versnellen de hartslag en verhogen de bloeddruk, en dit samen zou erg gevaarlijk kunnen zijn.
En, zoals bij alle psychoactieve middelen, gebruik ze niet als je een verleden hebt van mentale problemen of ziekte behalve wanneer is bewezen dat het je toestand of houding verbetert. Gebruik geen middelen als deze wanneer je anti-depressiva gebruikt of andere medicijnen of drugs totdat de mogelijke reacties onderzocht zijn.

Alternatieven

LSA is een natuurlijke vervanger van LSD, dat semi-synthetisch is en bovendien sterkere hallucinaties geeft. LSD is het bekendste en meest onderzochte psychedelische middel. Het is de standaard waarmee alle andere psychedelica worden vergeleken. Het is werkzaam in extreem lage doses en meestal verkrijgbaar op stukjes papier of in vloeibare vorm.

Bewaren

Beide soorten zaadjes kunnen hun potentie verliezen wanneer ze lange tijd aan hoge temperaturen worden blootgesteld.

Links / Referenties

Lysergic Acid Amides
Thinkquest over lysergamide
Erowids LSD Vault

Reacties

tom. - 2007-08-28 23:57:29

morning glory seeds are crazy.
i took a dosage of about 200 a few months ago.
i started to feel abitt sick after about 2 hours.
then the effects came on.
it felt like i was in a dream.
but i remember being able to read the mind of my grandma who was there. i have never felt so euphoric though. i dont remember alot else apart from the walla were moving.

i'd suggest taking this yourself if your interested.
its a cheap good high with little side effects.

Seregil - 2009-02-17 19:54:18

Okay, I took 3 Hawaiian Babywoodrose seeds like 2 hours ago.
At first I thought the stuff was never gonna kick in, when it did, I almost wanted to die, because of the sickness. It is horrible if you have eaten before and don't eat within the 2 hours "to make the sickness go away" - it doesn't!! I'm feeling terribly tired and confused. A few minutes ago I couldn't suppress the urge to laugh heavily - Euphoria I guess. Room seems brighter than usual, though I guess I'm just imagining things, coz I wanna feel some effects apart from the biliousness! ;)
Feeling faint, though my heart rate is quickened...
I'll just have to wait and see... :)

Dick - 2009-04-15 23:24:01

I took a dosage of about 75 seeds
I was watching tv when it started to kick in, and I noticed I couldn't stop smiling.
I had the urge to take a bath, so I did.
I started thinking in metaphors; like the water level representing my actions in life, and the warmth representing my passion.
After that, I got out and layed down on my bed and fell asleep.

JACK THE TRIPPER - 2009-07-18 15:49:11

I FIND IT A LIL TO WEAK FOR MY TASTE
BUT DONT GET ME WRONG THE EFFECTS ARE NICE BUT I RATHER HAVE HEAVIER TRIP EFFECTS

DYLAN AND CHRIS - 2009-07-20 04:25:55

hello all, chris an I ate about 12 baby rosewood seeds an we feel hella fine other than the crazy stomach pains its only ben forty five or so min.s an we both notice somewhat of a different feelin as though i am slowed down listenin to my trance music its great... wel let chu know what else happens tomorrow morning.

w0wzer - 2009-11-10 19:41:55

I had 7 Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and it's crazy.

20-30 minutes after consumption

I felt:
-Anxiety (Due to the fact it was probably my first time)
-Nausea
-Stomach pain

1 Hour after consumption
-It's impossible to describe, I just felt.. "nice"
-My muscles started to tingle
-Still minor nausea, stomach pain

4 Hours after consumption
-I feel great, I get distracted easily though
-I'm hallucinating (Curtains look as if they are moving)
-For some reason, I feel more artistic.

If you have more questions about my experience email destr0yzr@live.com, Everything I said is true. :D

joshy - 2010-03-22 11:26:45

i ate about 10 woodrose seeds and thought i had killed my brain and was never goi g to recover!! i woke up in the morning completly fine. the beggining of the trip was insane the best effects of anything iv had! i could tell what people were thinking very at one with mother nature. but i didnt respect the seeds and i really fucked my in the ass.. i went out drinking and walking around my block with mates... should of sat at home in the back yard remonising in deep thought!! goes to show what happens when you use drugs as a toy not a tool. i will def take them again in a year. i was told only to have 7 at max aswell

Tyla - 2010-03-30 16:07:04

Last night I took 13 woodrose seeds.
After about 2-3 hours I was at a hookah party and couldn't feel anything other than sick. I went home and laid in my bed. My friend staying the night at my house was sitting on the couch next to my bed and I noticed that his body looked super strange. Like a Picasso painting. Not that he looked painted, but that he was very contorted and awkwardley structured. His leg seemed to be the whole length of his body. Also with this came a restlessness. I was in my bed continuously changing positions. I also had a very high sensitivity to noise. A stereo playing "softly" (what my friends said) seemed overwhelmingly loud! At about 5 hours in I made it to my bathroom and threw up 4 times, but I felt ten times better. Back in my room I was looking at some high top Nike shoes that were blurry, then short and wide, then like a head on the ground. In the end I woke up feeling way better! My eyes were dialated so much last night that there was only about a milimeter of color left with the rest black.

Smokey Joe - 2010-04-17 14:15:04

Hey guys,
I found a way to get rid of the nausea. Instead of chewing the seeds you should try to grind them up and put them in a youghurt or something. I heard when stuff in the seeds contacts your saliva it brings on the nausea effect. I took about 100 morning glory seeds a baby woodrose seed and about 10 rivea corymbosa seeds and im not feeling sick at all theres a presence in my stomach but apart from that im fine!!! try it, it really works. grinding the seeds is alot of effort though i used my grinder last time and broke a tooth and i used a pestle and mortar this time and it was just loads of effort

countercultures - 2010-05-07 02:54:40

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100 miles wide and 10 miles high. Super atomic waves consuming me and I had to lay down for it. Consumed 220 wild Mexican seeds and it was stronger than LSD ( tripped over 40 times). Super visuals and the universe opened up with a strong ego death. Great peaceful comedown. Highly recommend to anyone who likes to break through to the other side.

burb - 2010-09-19 22:07:34

I ate 450 morning glories that i blended with Strawberry milkshake. Messed me up. Ive done 5 grams of mushrooms before many times and this blew it away. I wanted to try lsd but i dont think i ever have to, the morning glory tripped me out big time. Loved it, visuals were intense, no sickness at all.

johnny - 2011-01-17 03:13:36

okay. I have a lot of experience with different kinds of lsa containing seeds. After about my 12th time doing it, I looked up some thing called a "cold water extraction" which is basically grinding up te seeds, putting the seed powder in tea bags, and setting it in extreamly cold distilled water. Let that sit for about a half hour in the fridge, stir it vigorously, and repeat the process two more times. After that squeez out all of the liquid from the tea bags and put 4 drops of lemon juice in it.... Chug that shit down slowly, almost sip it actually you will trip balls depending on ow much seeds you put in.

sayshwon - 2011-03-15 17:58:53

i made this shit with 70% alcohol (absinthe) to be exact and about 20,000 seeds of various types of morning glory seeds and listen this shit was more than an lsa trip on its own ....way more than lsd id say personally but fact is its to get a high grade alcohol mix with the seeds wait three days shake it often.....keep it in the freezer add some peppermint oil to every ounce two drops and the shit turns into lsh which is waaaaaaaaay more potent than lsd and lsa on its own, good trips my friends

Kidrites - 2011-07-18 06:14:41

I don't get it. I've tried a 500 morning glory (Heavenly Blue) dose on three different occasions using 3 different methods (whole ingestion, cold water extraction, alcohol extraction) and the psychedelic effects were consistently very, very mild. I'd go with a higher dose but I'm suffering very intense sweats and stomach cramps at this level; luckily the nausea is the least severe of the symptoms, although it certainly is present. I've got an altogether yucky feeling that is not worth the effort. I'm disappointed because of the raving things I've heard from others, though...

koopa420 - 2011-08-19 20:12:42

i died 1000 deaths on these. each a different horrid death. i saw god the 1st few times, then the devil had my soul and body. i projectile vomited for hours screaming with a voice that wasnt mine I AM THE DEVIL. i would slip back in to conciousness periodically to kill the demon and save humanity. i knew my body must be drowned, but my sitter refused to do so, as he was trying to bring my sanity back. the devil finally left my body when he knew he was trapped and "using my body" he punched the glass out of the window and tried to jump out. not realizing there is a also a storm window and he almost cut my toe off in doing so. almost bled to death, but the devil didnt succed and take my soul with him back down.

LSA is not stable. if you are wanting to trip. wait till some acid comes around or go find some mushrooms. taking a high dose of HBWR seeds has changed my outlook on trippin and life/spirituality itself. once an athiest i now question everything. maybe this stuff is ok on lower doses and without the nausia, idk it showed me things i didnt need to be shown is all. use with respect. that is not even half of the anguish and terror i went through that night (total of about 8 hours) that seems like an eternity. we had only been peeking about 20 minutes and i thought the night was about over that i had tripped all night long after already having many visions. i knew right then and there it was going to be a bad night. i wasnt really looking foward to tripping on these that night to begin with and was just testing them really for future experience. i was just going to be along for the ride. (which is never a good idea) i was really worn out and exhausted before i ingested them and had been smoking (best nugs ive seen in years) LEMON KUSH!!! for the past 3 days and got a new bag right before i ate the seeds. so that stuff had my mind blown already.

from now on im just sticking with medium dose mushroom trips. thats all i need. im now (a little bit more) insane.

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